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We discuss the new Hobbit footage that was shown at CinemaCon and the controversy over the 48 frames per second technology used by Peter Jackson. Is The Hobbit in trouble?
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STH046: Bilbo in Trouble?
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Hello Fr. Roderick and Dave,
I’m an avid follower of your show and I really enjoyed this episode and completely share your views on the 48 fps technology and that all this fuss is really about reluctance to innovation.
I would like to offer an interpretation about the Immortal Blade. Could it refer to the Morgul Blade used by the Witch King to stab Frodo on Weathertop? I think this offers a more logical reference than Glamdring.
Eagerly awaiting the next episode.
Georges
Hello Father and friends.
I support Georges Fadel apreciation of the blade too. Maybe Gandalf and the “company” found all the swords (Glamdring, Sting and the Morgul blade) saved together.
Thanks for your show!
Weren’t Glamdring, Sting etc. found in the troll’s cave and taken to Rivendell for investigation. Very unlikely to find a Morgul blade there. Could be that the company finds the legendary swords at the orcs’ cave and then Gandalf finds the Morgul blade on a seperate mission.
I agree, and I hope were right, that the Immortal blade is not Glamdring and is instead a off-shoot plot that Jackson wrote for this movie. Listening to the podcast and reading some of the reporters notes on the 10 minutes of footage that was shown in Las Vegas, I am hopeful that what we are getting from them is simply a miss-interpretation of what they saw. For one, the Witch King can not have a tomb, as well as the rest of the Nazguls. They were never killed and never died. They were turned into wraiths by the use of the rings that Sauron gave them. One of the reasons they accepted the rings was for the promise of immortality that Sauron said was part of the power of the rings. The Witch King does not meet his demise until the Battle of the Pelennor Fields in the Return of the King.
Having said that, It would not surprise me to see Jackson “change” things so much, although I still love the job he did on the LOTR movies, there were aspects of them that were just way off from the books. But that a different debate…
And I am sorry David for this, but, though you seemed to get the names of the Gondor Kings correct in this podcast, ( I didn’t actually check), I have to call you on the slip-up on the finding of the key to the secret door. You said you believed that the dwarfs found it in the cave of the Trolls, with Sting, Glamdring, and Orcrist, when in actuality Gandalf got it from Train along with the map in the dungeons of Dol Gulur. The only key found during the Troll segment of the book was the key to the Trolls cave that Bilbo found on the ground after the Trolls fight.
Again sorry, but i couldn’t let that go…:)
Just for the record, it was indeed “Morgul Blade” and not “Immortal”. Others, such as Quickbeam, have said it was “Morgul”. The person who said it was “Immortal” apparently wasn’t a big fan and didn’t get the reference.
Nice podcast. The fact that it’s implied the Nazgul have been ‘sealed away in tombs’ is pretty non-canonical – when they weren’t fighting the west they were organising forces away east and south for most of the Third Age. Perhaps this ‘tomb’ is a way of bringing something similar to the Barrow Downs into the Hobbit? As for the Immortal Blade itself, maybe it can be one of the ‘weapons’ that Saruman gave to the White Council in order to defeat Sauron the Necromancer at Dol Guldur?